Why Kanye West Was Justified for Ranting About Justin Timberlake, Jay-Z and Corporate Sponsors

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The Internet, gloomy place that it is, was awash in all sorts of chatter this weekend, after Kanye West ripped into Jay-Z and Justin Timberlake on stage at the Hammersmith Apollo in London.

"I ain't fucking with that 'Suit & Tie'," he said.

But he didn't stop there. He then denounced the corrosive influence of corporate sponsorship in creative industries, specifically the music business.

"I hate business people," he said. "People get on the phone with me and tell me, 'What kind of business can you do, though? What type of business are you doing? What's the numbers? How much did you sell? How much shampoo can you sell with your face on it and shit?"

He questioned the whole purpose of making music in the first place.

"Remind me again why we in this shit ... Since when [is] making music about getting rich? Since when [is] making art about getting rich?"

Perhaps the higher-ups at his label have been in Kanye's ear, telling him he needs to play nice with brands so that they might be able to fork over some cash and underwrite his often majestic productions. He mimicked himself having to sell the brands on his newly-wholesome image.

"Can I sell a drink for you please?" he asked, rhetorically. "So you can help me put on a better show. Please corporations. Can you please support me? I swear I'm a nice nigga now. I swear I'll put the pink polo back on. I swear to you ... Just for $3 million dollars. I need it so bad. I need a new pool in my backyard. I tell my fans your shit is cool. And if they believe in me they should also believe in you. What's my public rating now? Are they liking me again? They forgot about the whole Beyonce thing right? OK cool."

But Kanye's got a few points here.

One is glaringly obvious and perhaps underscores a larger issue which is endemic to critical institutions and perhaps our population as a whole -- "Suit & Tie" is wack, and it's even wacker that nobody in any position of real influence has stepped up to say so. The song is a major letdown from one of pop music's most revered artists.

Back in 2007, 'Ye told XXL that Timberlake was his biggest inspiration and competition.

"He's the only other person that gets an across-the-board response and respect level -- black radio, white radio," he explained. "If Justin hadn't come out and killed the game, I can't say that my album, singles and videos would be on the same level that they're on. We push each other. I look at me and Justin like Prince and Michael Jackson in their day."

If Kanye's the Michael Jackson in this relationship -- think about it, he's got to be MJ -- it's like Prince releasing a terrible single. He's been waiting and waiting for this long and what does he get? Some watered-down attempt at being the next Robin Thicke. Seriously.

Beyond that, to see that JT is heading out on a stadium tour with such noticeably weak new material has to be frustrating. "Suit & Tie" is as mediocre a comeback record as there is. And yet he's using it as a springboard for a major summer tour. Not just any summer tour. A stadium tour. A tour of that magnitude is about as big as it gets, on par with the rock n' roll icons who we expect to roll through our indiscriminate cities during the warmer months every year. That he's doing this "Legends of Summer" stadium tour with Jay-Z, whom 'Ye was relegated to touring arenas with during the "Watch The Throne" tour, is saying something.

But where do the brands come into play and what exactly was Kanye getting at by taking shots at them?

Timberlake was recently named the Creative Director of Bud Light Platinum and Jay-Z has a long history of being supported by the folks over at Anheuser Busch. Back in 2006 he was named a Brand Director there (and might still be). His Philadelphia music festival last year was officially dubbed "Budweiser Made In America." With two aces in the hole, it's not stretch to think that the eponymous liquor franchise has signed on to be one of the sponsors of their "Legends of Summer Tour," thereby giving the artists some of the financial support they need to stage such huge concerts.

All the while, the record industry is changing. Labels both indie and major are looking for any and every way to get other companies involved with their projects, so they might help offset the cost of what it takes to produce, market and sell a record.

Kanye West is not immune to these changes.

Because despite the critical acclaim and the fanfare, Kanye's new records likely aren't selling well enough these days to make up what they cost to produce. Def Jam and his team of advisers must be pleading with him at this point, telling him that he needs to partner with a brand to help make his next album or stage his next tour.

And this might be difficult for one, because his public image has taken a beating in recent years; and two, because he may be reluctant to have his music associated with type of brands that can afford to be in business with him.

Kanye's recent material may not be remarkable, but still, this is one of the most adventurous musicians working today. The guy is doing anything but mailing it in from a creative standpoint. Ten years in and he's still trying to push the limits of what can be done with a rap song. It's just unfortunate that the results aren't what they once were.

Can we say the same about Justin Timberlake? Given "Suit & Tie," probably not. And it often goes overlooked just how much influence Kanye has had on Jay-Z in recent years.

He may often come off like an entitled crybaby, but if anyone's getting the shaft right now, it's Kanye West. That stadium tour should be his and he shouldn't have to play nice with a corporate sponsor to pull it off either.

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gymsock

I agree with another responder: Suit and Tie is a grower not a shower. You have to look at what JT did from a music history perspective. The sign of a true artist is not their trendiness but instead how much they can look into the past and reinterpret it in some meaningful way for the present. In the land of heavy electronic/dubstep/techno influences that modern pop/ R & B has become, JT chose to go the opposite. Suit and Tie is 1982 Michael Jackson "Off the Wall"---pure dance hit with a strong rhythm and blues flow. You know back in the day artists made songs about nothing in particular that were purely created to get everyone on the dance floor from grandma to the young teens, a cross cultural cross generational hit. The ability to do this is why Michael Jackson became a world renowned artist. JT also accomplished that, exhibiting that he continues to grow as an artist. He's matured and moved beyond the immature need to constantly shock audiences that many young artists fall victim too and which eventually makes them the very thing that they supposedly commit the provocative acts to avoid: obsolete . As much as music is not about always seeking out the new hotness, it's also not about constantly seeking out the most provocative & shocking (which eventually becomes mundane). There are few artists able to move with the times and constantly reach out to new audiences---those few artists become classics/ legends. Legends are the people that sell out concerts even in their 50s. I think JT is on his way (of course not there yet but definitely on his way) to establishing himself as a legendary artists and performer.

Saturday at 3:54 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Tha Watcher

Right on, gymsock! JT's album is bangin'! Why is anyone still listening to crazy ass Kanye!?!

Sunday at 9:08 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Edward Norton

Not a fan of any of these tools, but Kanye has remarkably nailed why the music business is so bad these days: It's not pirating that killed the business, but the business that killed it. Corporate greed, cutting support to an artist that was not a Britney/Justin/N'Sync clone, releasing a horrifically terrible digital product (CD) where the masters are so loud that everyone hits your ears like a wall of garbage with no more musical nuance that was I cenherent In the art being discernible- nobody wants to shell out $16 for a crappy product that cost $4 to make, where the record label keeps $11 and the artist gets $1. When CDs rolled out and corporate greed heads saw the money they could steal, everything changed forever. It became a cookie cutter business with a very expensive and terrible end product.

May 13 2013 at 6:04 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Jerkface McGee

Click bait. He didn't diss that *****.

May 07 2013 at 7:15 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
digginya

Suit and Tie is a grower not a shower. It is def growing on me. It's for sure not as dope as his first two albums though.

April 26 2013 at 1:59 AM Report abuse +1 rate up rate down Reply
treytay

I get it. He's absolutely right. JT comes from a background of "formula" music. It's always been about the marketing with him whereas Kanye is about real music. It's raw and real. Jt is like Toddlers&Tiaras to me. Kanye's music is more like a poet rapping his verses. JT's music is so "bubble gum" (it would be more suitable for Justin Bieber to sing. So if people want to listen to an overgrown Justin Bieber go right ahead and knock yourself out. If you want to listen to a man that has meaning behind his music then go for Kanye. Just don't be sheep to these corporate marketing schemes.

April 25 2013 at 9:41 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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brooknsan

bwahahahaha...meaning behind his music, real music? Are you kidding me? You call his rap, music?!? He's a racist who has been given a platform by, none other than corporations, to spew his hatred and get paid handsomely for it!

April 25 2013 at 5:57 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Jaskaran Gill

You are about the biggest **** talker to ever live. Did you even hear any of JT's new album? I'm guessing not. He is an amazing artist. While other artists are trying to get hits by putting out electronic dance garbage (i.e. Usher, Ne-Yo, etc.) JT has remained true to his own style. I understand that Suit & Tie was not the best song JT has ever released but every other song on 20/20 is a banger! As for Kanye, WTT was no where as good as his previous albums and the GOOD Music compilation album was just terrible.

April 28 2013 at 10:29 AM Report abuse +1 rate up rate down Reply
dartagnan

tell me what ever happened to music being just that? I never heard of painters such
as Piccaso(may be spelled wrong)dissing other artist. all artist should support each
others work. this not a sporting event where there's losers and winners. either people
like your art or they don't. all this feuding between these rappers is so stupid.

April 24 2013 at 12:05 PM Report abuse +2 rate up rate down Reply
wastite

Kanye... do you think you'd be tapping that fat, Armenian ho if you weren't rich? STFU and enjoy what time you have left. Something tells me Jay-Z gonna come after you.

April 22 2013 at 8:01 PM Report abuse +1 rate up rate down Reply
smoothtkl

Kanye can't talk ! I dont see him turning down any paychecks ! I thought he said "it was all about the music, all about art and not getting rich ! What a fake ! Don't forget that he also dissed Chris Humphries regarding Kim Kardashian but Ray J. came back and blew Kanye up ! LOL !

April 22 2013 at 1:58 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
tablee4

all this boy does is whine and whine,,,sit yo dark lipped self down and shut it!!! if you aint happy,,then get out of the bizzzz,,,and how many songs have you sung about being rich? please , tell kim to slap you with her fake plastic body,,and maybe then you'll have something new to whine about,,,chicken head

April 22 2013 at 11:45 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Logan Damien

Cause youre a gay fish?

April 22 2013 at 6:45 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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wastite

That's try! He does like fishsticks

April 22 2013 at 8:02 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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